Krusty's Going Krazy
Over at Krusty Konservative, the blogosphere's favorite klown has this to say about the 08ers.
With Allen’s absence from the race Konservatives lack a viable kandidate in 2008. While McCain, Giuliani, Frist, and Pataki tell us how konservative they are; the konservative activists in Iowa are not buying it because they all have questionable records. Mitt Romney has made inroads with konservatives in Iowa, but his past komments about abortion raise some red flags. Mike Huckabee is great on the social issues, but gives some konservatives heartburn on immigration and fiscal issues.
In a time when our party is searching for a new voice, the options listed above don’t get me very excited.
We at the Kooler think that Krusty needs to step away from the extreme right-wing kool-aid. For some reason konservatives like to be revisionist historians when it komes to our Presidential kandidates.
W. won election as a "compassionate conservative." Someone who worked with members of both parties in Texas to achieve success. One of the issues he talked about most, if not his top issue, was education- and not vouchers or shutting down the Dept. of Ed but "leaving no child behind" and nationalizing education standards. George W's position on abortion was cloudy. It seemed like he was pro-life but he never clearly said it, always answering the question by talking about judges.
His father was clearly a moderate when he ran in 88.
Reagan won with "Reagan Democrats." He was not an anti-abortion zealot. He appointed moderate judges. Gay marriage wasn't a hot button issue and he was by todays GOP standards a moderate on immigration.
It seems to us that the only kandidate that Krusty would be satisfied with is Steve King or Alan Keyes or Gary Bauer or Pat Buchanan. Is that really the route the party wants to go?
The entire Cooler staff is pro-life. We are all very konservative when in comes to fiscal issues and security. But part of being konservative is being pragmatic. There's a reason that for 20 of 28 years the GOP has held the White House. We didn't nominate people like Michael Dukakis or John Kerry. Do we want to make that mistake this time?
Discuss.
With Allen’s absence from the race Konservatives lack a viable kandidate in 2008. While McCain, Giuliani, Frist, and Pataki tell us how konservative they are; the konservative activists in Iowa are not buying it because they all have questionable records. Mitt Romney has made inroads with konservatives in Iowa, but his past komments about abortion raise some red flags. Mike Huckabee is great on the social issues, but gives some konservatives heartburn on immigration and fiscal issues.
In a time when our party is searching for a new voice, the options listed above don’t get me very excited.
We at the Kooler think that Krusty needs to step away from the extreme right-wing kool-aid. For some reason konservatives like to be revisionist historians when it komes to our Presidential kandidates.
W. won election as a "compassionate conservative." Someone who worked with members of both parties in Texas to achieve success. One of the issues he talked about most, if not his top issue, was education- and not vouchers or shutting down the Dept. of Ed but "leaving no child behind" and nationalizing education standards. George W's position on abortion was cloudy. It seemed like he was pro-life but he never clearly said it, always answering the question by talking about judges.
His father was clearly a moderate when he ran in 88.
Reagan won with "Reagan Democrats." He was not an anti-abortion zealot. He appointed moderate judges. Gay marriage wasn't a hot button issue and he was by todays GOP standards a moderate on immigration.
It seems to us that the only kandidate that Krusty would be satisfied with is Steve King or Alan Keyes or Gary Bauer or Pat Buchanan. Is that really the route the party wants to go?
The entire Cooler staff is pro-life. We are all very konservative when in comes to fiscal issues and security. But part of being konservative is being pragmatic. There's a reason that for 20 of 28 years the GOP has held the White House. We didn't nominate people like Michael Dukakis or John Kerry. Do we want to make that mistake this time?
Discuss.
posted by Caucus Cooler at 11/13/2006
14 Comments:
I agree CC. Pataki is the man. He can draw from both parties.
I think it's time to refresh our labels. I believe that R v Wade will be overturned due to it's being an incorrectly decided decision. I believe that we will see the fight move to the states. At that point, there will be much discussion about the continuum of positions one can take from pro-choice on one end and pro-life on the other end.
All of our 08'ers are challenged in one way or another with respect to what is traditionally thought to be the bedrock SoCo agenda.
How will those agenda items be sorted out by the voters?
What does pro-life mean? What does a RINO mean? Who is the base? The ones that vote or the ones that don't? What is fiscal conservatism (small govt)? How does that work with compassionate conservatism (big govt)?
This is going to be an extremely interesting primary.
. . . it sounds to me like Krusty is searching for a Sunday School President or something . . . That's totally different than picking a guy best suited to GOVERN the world's most powerful country. We do need a guy who has traditional family values and is conservative (fical & social), but to what extreme?
Cuz I'll tell ya a lot of guys that would meet Krusty's litmus test for "True Konservatives" I wouldn't touch with a 20-foot pole . . . (I'm lookin at you Frist)
I agree with the CC. Let's not make the same mistake as the Democrats and nominate a Guv from Mass. The D's have tried that without much success. Remember the Mass. miracle? That is what you meant CC with the reference to Dukakis? Or did you mean anyone from Mass.? Cuz' I can agree with both.
I think maybe Krusty needs to look into supporting Duncan Hunter...
I know, I know, it's a longshot and I've been drinking the grape Kool-Aid again, but seriously, look into his policy history (0& rating from NARAL, A+ from NRA, Vietnam Vet, Chairman of HASC, godfather of the border fence) and tell me he's not exactly the kind of guy Conservatives have been yearning for... And, oh, by the way, that doesn't make us "Extreme right-wingers", just Reagan conservatives who are trying to keep the faith...
Max- We weren't taking veiled shots at Romney by pointing out Dukakis and Kerry. We were trying to point out that the Ds have errored a number of times by nominating people too far left for the electorate. Let's not make the same mistake on the otherside...
To Joshua's point- you are prob right, We overlooked Hunter, he may fit the bill for Krusty.
Cooler, how about an update on the staff sweepstakes?
Who's up? Who's down? Who's signed? Who isn't?
It is called a "joke box" CC. Don't get jumpy on me now. Sorry to put four walls around your argument even though I know that is not what you meant to say. Could it have been on a subconscious level though? Are your relationships with your mothers strong or troubled? Lay back and tell us about it.
Huckabee is the ONLY candidate who can go the distance and win against the eventual democratic nominee.
www.mikehuckabeepresident2008.blogspot.com
Anon-
The staffing battles have moved a little slowe than we would have expected.. Once it shakes out we'll be sure to keep you posted.
From this post, it looks like someone (Krusty) has finally spoken about the big BLUE ELEPHANT in the room: All of the "frontrunners" in the party are too liberal for the base. The party elites and the pundits - and, incidentally, the media - are pining for McCain, Romney, Guliani and Pataki, but they are too liberal.
And Paul S., Huckabee is the most flawed candidate of them all. His pro-criminal, pro-illegal bleeding heart message will not win over the media OR the consrvative base. Stop triangulating. Playing nice with the Left on the issues didn't work for Bush, and it won't work for him. Plus, Huckabee looks like he's on the verge of imploding and falling in on himself. Hillary will eat this weak man for lunch.
Who is the base? The ones that voted or the ones that stayed home?
Paul S. is right. Down with McCain Romney Rudy and the rest of the pretenders!!!
Huckabee is the GOP version of Vilsack, only with a sillier name.
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