Thursday, November 02, 2006

Lots of Krap

We've got so much we want to post on that we're going to lump it all right here and you can comment away at the bottom.
  • Mitt Romney picking an odd time to start surveying GOPers in the Palmetto State. Romney sent more than 1,000 Republicans in the state a glossy, eight-page brochure that reads like a campaign solicitation and lays out what amounts to a 10-point plan to reinvorgating the conservative movement. The 10/30-dated latter includes a message-testing "State of South Carolina Survey" that asks recipients to agree or disagree with 20 issue statements. Strange timing, but otherwise the kind of thing we can expect from these guys in the near future. Anybody want to chime in on why they chose the week before the midterms for this? Read more on the Hotline.

  • Fun Story on Obama v. McCain on MSNBC. McCain spent an entire day campaigning for Tim Pawlenty, who will likely endorse McCain and has been speculated as a VP match- if Pawlenty can survive the Democrat wave of 06. Meanwhile, Obama was campaigning for Democrats in Rochester, Minnesota. This match-up would be the MSM's dream and Tom Curry has the preview.

  • Mike Huckabee is appearing in a campaign ad this week for soon to be former Gubernatorial Candidate Asa Hutchinson. Huckabee levels some peripheral corruption charges at soon to be Governor Mike Beebe and trots out the old "Balance of Power" argument for Asa. Read more at

Line update to come hopefully over the weekend.


Blogger murphy said...

I thought the timing of Romney's letter made sense. It could only help remind voters why they need to support conservative candidates this Tuesday. Also makes sense for Romney personally, as he's working on uniting constituents around his candidacy and defining himself as the first president who is a conservative leader since Reagan. They might just talk about that nice glossy letter at work around the water cooler, this being political season and all.

I'll bet the press is eager for an Obama McCain fight. The poor maverick Senator wouldn't know what hit him when his best constituency (the press) turned on him on a dime. Those liberals he enjoys cozying up to on prime time will absolutely savage the poor guy if he wins the nomination.

12:40 AM  
Blogger winin08 said...

Mike, poor little man. The Romney mailing is another selfish example of a guy who has given up his day job, ruined the chances for a GOP to follow him, diverted RGA funds for self serving NH aimed ads, while presiding over probably the worst performance of the RGA in its history.

McCain and Obama... please, could we get so lucky.

6:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Romney = Perot

8:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Could someone provide the thumbnail on Obama? What is the big deal? I'm unfamiliar with him other than the MSM falling all over him like groupies wanting to hook up with a rock star.

8:38 AM  
Blogger Cancer Man said...

Winin08 you are a joke. These blogs are being ruined by paid hacks like you who get paid to trash other republicans.

The crap you spew does not shield your utter fear of Mitt Romney. Pathetic.

9:03 AM  
Blogger Caucus Cooler said...

The interesting thing about Obama is that he was a State Senator (and a liberal one at that) only 2 years ago..

It's amazing what a good , primetime convention speech can do for a career.

9:17 AM  
Blogger winin08 said...

Utter fear of Mitt. LOL...Rudy is a fearsome liberal, Romney is not. We'll see how the caucus votes, with McCain taking the middle and Romney and Rudy splitting the left.

The right flank is wide open, thus why you're seeing such an effort by Mitt to reinvent himself.

Cancerman, you're inhaling something clinton claimed he didn't!

9:50 AM  
Blogger murphy said...


To address each of your points at 6:39am.

1. My name's not Mike, see yesterday's posting.

2. Romney has not diverted RGA funds for self-serving NH aimed ads. Romney had recused himself from the decision involving RGA funds in the MA governor's race.

3. Romney's performance as RGA chairman has been the best in its history. His job as RGA chairman is to raise and distribute money, which he has done in record amounts.

From your track record, I'm guessing that you won't be able to mentally process the above three points. But maybe other people will.

10:08 AM  
Blogger winin08 said...

1. I take you at your "word."

2. He so recused himself, but found time to appear in an ad about himself at a cost of $750k paid for by the RGA. Interesting recusal process.

3. The political business is judged on election day with wins and losses. I agree we should wait until Wednesday to judge how well this RGA chairman has done.

10:17 AM  
Blogger murphy said...

Nobody who actually examines the numbers can fault Romney as chairman. The large majority of governors up for re-election are GOP, in an anti-GOP nation wide climate. Neither the DGA or RGA chairmans can take credit for that.

Their job is to raise and distribute money. Romney's set new records. That's it. To say that Romney's performance should be judged by election totals indicative of being ignorant or having motive.

11:07 AM  
Blogger winin08 said...

The comment about Mitt using RGA funds to assist in NH was not answered. I guess that is an answer.

1:49 PM  
Blogger The Maestro said...

Romney put himself in RGA ads in a Mass Governor race when the candidate was down 20 points and Romney's negatives were higher than his positives.

Why? Because it is the New Hampshire media market. Waste of money.

In the meantime we are going to lose 4-6 Governor races, including possibly Iowa.

The job of the RGA Chairman is not just to raise and distribute money - the money must be distributed wisely and efficiently.

We will see Wednesday how well he performed.

1:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


So based on that logic, would you say that Tom Reynolds, Ken Mehlman, Elizabeth Dole, and Karl Rove failed? I think you could make the argument that the NRSC should not have spent money on the MI Sen race. That is just one example of money not being distributed wisely at any level.

Romney is not to blame for RGA losses, this is a Republican problem on the whole.

2:43 PM  
Blogger murphy said...


The comment about Mitt using RGA funds to assist in NH was not answered. I guess that is an answer.

Romney recused himself from the decision to contribute RGA funds to the MA governor's race. Seeing Romney's face in the ad shouldn't surprise you, since he is the current sitting governor, this election is largely a referendum on his administration, and he is more popular than his proposed successor.

I'd be truly surprised if there was any answer out there that satisfied you. Your track record has been attack Romney for everything, see what sticks. Romney's clean on this one.

3:41 PM  
Blogger The Maestro said...

How Romney performs as RGA Chairman is an issue.

Yes indeed how the RNC performs is also an issue for Mehlman and he is unlikey to be re-elected RNC Chairman.

Yes indeed how the NRSC performs is also an issue for Dole.

The most important point related to Romney's tenure as RGA Chair is that he wasted money in Boston media to further his own personal ambition.

If we lose a Governor race by a close margin, in a state like Iowa, then he is accountable for his actions.

With regard to the issue of putting his face in the ads - usually outgoing Governor's do not do ads for the next candidate - particularly when their negatives are higher than their positives.

Argue it is a smart political move by him - fine - but don't argue he was doing it for the good of the party.

4:05 PM  
Blogger murphy said...


Did you actually read the 3:41 post?

4:12 PM  
Blogger The Maestro said...

Yes, I read it, that doesn't mean I buy it.

Have you ever been involved in an organization when the person who heads it excuses themself from a decision?

How often does that decision go against his preference? Give us a break.

5:07 PM  
Blogger Yoda said...

Hmmmm.... So Maestro is Mitt supposed to run all 36 races for Gov this year? Or are the individual candidates and thier campaign managers supposed to do that?

The RGA and the RNCC etc. are supplemental organizations meant to help raise money and then direct those funds to their respective races. Romney has raised record levels of cash and has a whopping 36 races to spread them across.

We aren't talking quantum physics here buddy.

Mitt is to be commended given that gov candidates across the country are being saddled with America's dissatisfaction on Iraq amd with our party in Washington D.C., but then this is all greek to you since it is your intent to just trash Romney.

WAR The 11th Commandment

5:35 PM  
Blogger murphy said...

So, you're determined to fault Romney for this, absent any proof of his involvement or influence?

And you're also judging his performance not by his record-setting fund raising, but by the electability of other governors nation wide?

You're wasting time grinding your axe on a non-issue. And I'm wasting time arguing with you.

5:39 PM  
Blogger winin08 said...

What seems to be interesting to me is the number of governors supporting McCain.

6:55 PM  
Blogger murphy said...

No kidding. How many governors does McCain have endorsements from?

8:50 PM  
Blogger winin08 said...

seems to me more than the RGA chair.

9:05 PM  
Blogger murphy said...

Man, can you produce a single fact or source? It was a simple question. Are you just a never-ending fountain of unsupported anti-Romney blather?

9:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Indiana and Utah support McCain - who supports Mitt?

3:06 PM  
Blogger Caucus Cooler said...

We might be forced to start a thread just for Prez staffers to flame each other in...

4:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has McCain ever run anything bigger than a Senate office?

5:16 PM  
Blogger winin08 said...

oh no, he's never commanded men . . . not at all. He's never safeguarded an olympics in Utah. In fact, he chose to go to war as opposed to opting out so he could ride his bicylce all over France.

Certainly not qualified. Not in the least.

6:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

winin08, with that last France comment you are now officially a putz in my book. good job.

ps - i think i could be happy with either mitt or mccain. i like mitt a bit better. why does everybody gotta be such haters so early?

7:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has John McCain ever run anything bigger than a Senate office?

7:32 PM  
Blogger winin08 said...

Has Mitt Romney ever believed in anything longer than one election cycle?

9:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fidelity, for one thing . . .

10:35 PM  
Blogger Jeff Fuller said...

Liked that one Kristine!

Funny how Winin08 never denied the accusations of being a McCain Staffer. Disclosure is important in my book.

I do know for a fact that me, Kristine, and Murphy are NOT Romney Staffers.

Now this "Maestro" dude chiming in . . . sounds like another "anonymous staffer".

I'm starting to develop a thicker skin with all this crap being hurled at Romney.

It's 2006 people! Support your candidate of choice . . . if you can.

I've got some major complaints about McCain and Huckabee . . . but I'll reserve those critiques for the time being because I see no sense in highlighting them . . . yet.

12:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mitt was at his best in Linn County yesterday. Too bad everyone didn't get to eat at the Irish Democrat with him!
His VP to be was with him, Governor Haley Barbour from the South. Nice duo.

WAR Romney winning in 08
WAR LC doing a great job in getting a crowd together.

12:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

War Romney Buying off people and Votes one by one and forgetting about the good of the country!--kinda reminds me of a few democrats I know!

9:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

War Romney Buying off people and Votes one by one and forgetting about the good of the country!--kinda reminds me of a few democrats I know!

9:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Romney buying off people? I thought Pataki was doing that.

11:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pataki doesn't have to buy anyone. He does offer to pay for work done. Novel concept in Iowa isn't it.

12:31 AM  

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